Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Way to store my master TM on cloud and access it with CAT
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Close reading 101
[quote]2nl wrote:
[quote]Balasubramaniam L. wrote:
What do you think of GoogleDrive?[/quote]
[quote]2nl wrote:I think that it explicitly states that by using it, you allow Google to harvest the content of your Drive.[/quote]
[quote]Michael Beijer wrote:
Google will not "harvest the content of your drive", don't worry. Google won't do anything sinister with the content of the documents on your computer. That would be insane. That's just an urban myth people like to tell around the campfire ;) [/quote]
Please read carefully: after all you are a translator! I didn't write they DO harvest. I actually wrote that you are allowing them to do so.
[/quote]
So you want me to read what you wrote carefully, huh? OK, but before I do so, might I then in return suggest that instead of merely parroting what other have said a thousand time already on this site and others about the alleged dangers of using cloud syncing/storage services to store your business data, you instead show us where exactly it says so, in their actual terms and conditions, or on a site or blog where this is discussed by a professional with sufficient legal knowledge and understanding to discuss this in a meaningful way?
OK, and now on to the careful reading part. You wrote "I think that it explicitly states that by using it, you allow Google to harvest the content of your Drive." What exactly do you mean by "harvest"? And, if possible, as I mentioned above, can you provide any sources to back this up?
From my limited understanding of how these types of T&Cs work, they usually contain a clause to the effect that you, the user, give the company the right to use your data (here comes the important part!) to improve the service. Look it up and then get back to me.
Pre-emptive counterargument(s):
People who say that using cloud services violates NDAs and puts the data their clients have entrusted to them in danger, often seem to forget one thing: email. 99% of the email providers used by us translators (especially if they are based on Google (both Google Apps for Work or free accounts) or Microsoft products) (1) have very similar T&Cs to the cloud offerings, and (2) are as insecure (if not sometimes even more insecure) than cloud syncing/storage services. So if you have sworn to never use a cloud service and feel all smug about your choice, maybe you ought to stop using email too, or encrypting all your email content and using encryption keys, etc., which is always a sure-fire way of making your daily interactions with your clients work smoother and more efficiently ;)
All of this is a bit of a moot point for me personally, as I now use CrashPlan PROe, via an authorised UK reseller, who stores all my data on servers in Amsterdam. Meaning, my data cannot be snooped on my the CIA, etc., which is of course another campfire story in its own right … ;)
The reason I stopped using Dropbox for my work data is not based on any alleged NDA violations or the evil intentions of big, bad corporations, who are all out to get us, but rather, on a technical issue I was having with it. Dropbox can cause a number of Windows file managers to slow down and become unresponsive when it is syncing. In my case, this happened when using both XYplorer and DirectoryOpus, as well as Windows Explorer. It has something to do with the icon overlays (the little green, blue or red icons that tell you what state a file is in), I think, and several people have tried to figure it out in the XYplorer and DirectoryOpus forums (including the respective developers of these tools themselves), but so far all we can say is it is probably Dropbox's fault, and until they fix it on their end, there is little that can be done about it. If it happens to you, you can try switching off the icon overlays in the settings of your file manager, but even that didn't really help on my computers. Anyway, so I switched to Crashplan, and have been very happy with it so far. Note though that CrashPlan isn't a syncing solution, so it won't keep an identical copy of your TM on all your devices. It's an online backup solution. However, if anything goes wrong, CrashPlan will give you access to previous versions of all your files, like with Dropbox, and it has a few other tricks, one of them being it can also back up to local and external drives, so you are double sure your data is safe if their servers explode or are stolen by a band of radical Belgian data activists.
Michael
Topic: Way to store my master TM on cloud and access it with CAT
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Close reading 101
[quote]2nl wrote:
[quote]Balasubramaniam L. wrote:
What do you think of GoogleDrive?[/quote]
[quote]2nl wrote:I think that it explicitly states that by using it, you allow Google to harvest the content of your Drive.[/quote]
[quote]Michael Beijer wrote:
Google will not "harvest the content of your drive", don't worry. Google won't do anything sinister with the content of the documents on your computer. That would be insane. That's just an urban myth people like to tell around the campfire ;) [/quote]
Please read carefully: after all you are a translator! I didn't write they DO harvest. I actually wrote that you are allowing them to do so.
[/quote]
So you want me to read what you wrote carefully, huh? OK, but before I do so, might I then in return suggest that instead of merely parroting what other have said a thousand time already on this site and others about the alleged dangers of using cloud syncing/storage services to store your business data, you instead show us where exactly it says so, in their actual terms and conditions, or on a site or blog where this is discussed by a professional with sufficient legal knowledge and understanding to discuss this in a meaningful way?
OK, and now on to the careful reading part. You wrote "I think that it explicitly states that by using it, you allow Google to harvest the content of your Drive." What exactly do you mean by "harvest"? And, if possible, as I mentioned above, can you provide any sources to back this up?
From my limited understanding of how these types of T&Cs work, they usually contain a clause to the effect that you, the user, give the company the right to use your data (here comes the important part!) to improve the service. Look it up and then get back to me.
Pre-emptive counterargument(s):
People who say that using cloud services violates NDAs and puts the data their clients have entrusted to them in danger, often seem to forget one thing: email. 99% of the email providers used by us translators (especially if they are based on Google (both Google Apps for Work or free accounts) or Microsoft products) (1) have very similar T&Cs to the cloud offerings, and (2) are as insecure (if not sometimes even more insecure) than cloud syncing/storage services. So if you have sworn to never use a cloud service and feel all smug about your choice, maybe you ought to stop using email too, or encrypting all your email content and using encryption keys, etc., which is always a sure-fire way of making your daily interactions with your clients work smoother and more efficiently ;)
All of this is a bit of a moot point for me personally, as I now use CrashPlan PROe, via an authorised UK reseller, who stores all my data on servers in Amsterdam. Meaning, my data cannot be snooped on my the CIA, etc., which is of course another campfire story in its own right … ;)
The reason I stopped using Dropbox for my work data is not based on any alleged NDA violations or the evil intentions of big, bad corporations, who are all out to get us, but rather, on a technical issue I was having with it. Dropbox can cause a number of Windows file managers to slow down and become unresponsive when it is syncing. In my case, this happened when using both XYplorer and DirectoryOpus, as well as Windows Explorer. It has something to do with the icon overlays (the little green, blue or red icons that tell you what state a file is in), I think, and several people have tried to figure it out in the XYplorer and DirectoryOpus forums (including the respective developers of these tools themselves), but so far all we can say is it is probably Dropbox's fault, and until they fix it on their end, there is little that can be done about it. If it happens to you, you can try switching off the icon overlays in the settings of your file manager, but even that didn't really help on my computers. Anyway, so I switched to Crashplan, and have been very happy with it so far. Note though that CrashPlan isn't a syncing solution, so it won't keep an identical copy of your TM on all your devices. It's an online backup solution. However, if anything goes wrong, CrashPlan will give you access to previous versions of all your files, like with Dropbox, and it has a few other tricks, one of them being it can also back up to local and external drives, so you are double sure your data is safe if their servers explode or are stolen by a band of radical Belgian data activists.
Michael